... of immense help. Let yoga be a kind of dance; keep that quality in mind. Don't be rigid and don't try to force forms on people. Rather, help them to find their own dance. Each one has a different kind of body, and when you start forcing a certain form on everybody this is a regimentation. The form has to be used just as a jumping-board and then everybody has to find his own way to use it. Make your...

... of a yoga teacher is not to impose a certain discipline forcibly but to provoke the inner consciousness of the person so that he starts loving his body, so he starts playing with his body as if it is a musical instrument. It is! Help the person to become aware of the mysteries of the body. There are infinite mysteries. Somewhere in your body a Buddha is hidden - he has to be discovered. From the...

... lowest to the highest, all is hidden in the body; the body is a ladder. You can find hell in it and you can find heaven in it. Help people to search, to seek, become more aware and alert about their bodies, about their health, their well-being, their wholeness. This is true yoga. Form is immaterial... form is only a formality. Start teaching from the form but soon help them to go beyond form. And when...

... developed Yoga at all; they cling to the form. This is stupid. There is no need to cling to Patanjali. Pay homage to Patanjali, he is a great pioneer, but there is no need to remain stuck with him; we have to search further. Patanjali was never aware of these bodies that are available today. In Patanjali's time a totally different body and a totally different body chemistry was available. Things have...

... be developed, new body rhythms, new breathing processes. Think of it as an exploration. Don't think in rigid terms. You are not just to be there like a school teacher. Then you will enjoy it. I will help you to be free of the rigidity and that will make you more and more in tune with truth. [A sannyasin asks if his energy is negative.] It is neither negative nor positive. It is in a kind of limbo...

... has consciousness, and the only difference is that few people become aware of it, and that is what growth means. That is what consciousness is all about: becoming conscious of your consciousness. And then you start growing in a new dimension, which has never been available to you. Ordinarily you grow only mentally, physically. The body gets old. The mind gets more and more knowledgeable. And these...

... will be remaining out of it. You will be simply dying totally. You are nothing but body and mind. You don't have any eternal element in you. Because you have not produced it. It is not given by birth, that is Gurdjieff's point. To insist, that "You are not given from the birth. You have to work for it and work hard, and you have to attain it before death. Otherwise your death will be complete...

... have not encountered. One thing is certain. You are not aware, so you cannot deny him. You know your mind. You know your body, but you don't know the knower, who knows the mind, who knows the body -- but he is there. Knowing the mind, knowing the body is enough proof that there is a third entity in you, which knows these both. And it is from the very birth. In fact, if you listen to children, in the...

... innocent child is yet not programmed. He knows it perfectly well, that he is not thirsty, because he is aware in a certain way of his consciousness, and he is identified with his consciousness. The ego has not been created yet. And he knows, that "I'm not thirsty." Because when he thinks of thirst, he thinks, "The body is thirsty. The mind is feeling the thirst." Not so analytically...

..., so logically, but in some innocent way every baby is aware, that there is something within him: his reality -- which is never thirsty, never hungry. It is always the body, which he calls the baby, or whatever name the people have given to him. He also uses the name as if he is outside that personality. Soon he will be losing that innocence. We won't allow him to remain that innocent. We will, by...

... the time he is three of four years old, force him to say, that "I am thirsty." And the day he starts saying, "I am thirsty," he is getting into a tremendously long journey of falsehoods. Soon he will get identified with the body and the mind, and will forget his real identity. So when Gurdjieff said to people, that "You don't have any soul", nobody stood up to say to...

... that is not a statement of truth. And you are asking, "What is growth and what is consciousness movement?" It is basically to understand that within you there is a line running into eternity. If you get disidentified with the mind and the body, you will suddenly become aware of a luminous eternity. That is the discovery of consciousness. And then growth happens. Then you don't simply grow...

... SPIRITUALITY? A: The old concept has been, that spirituality is something against materialism. To renounce the pleasures of matter, of body, of mind has been defined as spirituality. To me it is nonsense. Spirituality is to be disidentified with everything that you can see, that can be an object to you -- so that finally you remain only the subject. Pure subjectivity is spirituality. It has nothing to do...

... a desert. At first, thirst is a word in their mind: "I am feeling thirsty and I am looking for water." But as time goes on, and there is no sign of any oasis - and as far as the eyes can see, there is no possibility of finding water - the thirst goes on spreading all over the body. From the mind, from just a word, "thirst", it starts spreading to every cell and fiber of the...

... body. Now it is no longer a word, it is an actual experience. Your every cell - and there are seven million cells in the body - is thirsty. Those cells don't know words, they don't know language, but they know that they need water; otherwise life is going to be finished. In meditation, the longing becomes just a thirst for enlightenment and a patient awaiting, because it is such a great phenomenon...

... for you. Vipassana can be done in three ways - you can choose which one suits you the best. The first is: Awareness of your actions, your body, your mind, your heart. Walking, you should walk with awareness. Moving your hand, you should move with awareness, knowing perfectly that you are moving the hand. You can move it without any consciousness, like a mechanical thing. You are on a morning walk...

...; you can go on walking without being aware of your feet. Be alert of the movements of your body. While eating, be alert of the movements that are needed for eating. Taking a shower, be alert of the coolness that is coming to you, the water falling on you and the tremendous joy of it .... Just be alert. It should not go on happening in an unconscious state. And the same about your mind: whatever...

... vipassana can be done. And for a woman, my feeling is that it is the easiest, because a woman is more alert of her body than a man. It is just her nature. She is more conscious of how she looks, she is more conscious of how she moves, she is more conscious of how she sits; she is always conscious of being graceful. And it is not only a conditioning; it is something natural and biological. Mothers who have...

... the mother"s life through the navel. Behind the navel is his life"s source. So when the belly rises up, it is really the life energy, the spring of life that is rising up and falling down with each breath. That too is not difficult, and perhaps may be even easier, because it is a single technique. In the first, you have to be aware of the body, you have to be aware of the mind, you have to...

... athletics prevails over the world. Certainly it gives a more beautiful form to the body if your chest is high and your belly is almost non-existent. Man has chosen to breathe only up to the chest, so the chest becomes bigger and bigger and the belly shrinks down. That appears to him to be more athletic. Around the world, except in Japan, all athletes and teachers of athletes emphasize breathing by filling...

... your lungs, expanding your chest, and pulling the belly in. The ideal is the lion whose chest is big and whose belly is very small. So be like a lion; that has become the rule of athletic gymnasts and the people who have been working with the body. Japan is the only exception, where they don't care that the chest should be broad and the belly should be pulled in. It needs a certain discipline to pull...

... the belly in; it is not natural. Japan has chosen the natural way; hence you will be surprised to see a Japanese statue of Buddha. That is the way you can immediately discriminate whether the statue is Indian or Japanese. The Indian statues of Gautam Buddha have a very athletic body: the belly is very small and the chest is very broad. But the Japanese Buddha is totally different; his chest is...

... -- just as a child is born and the cord that joins him to the mother has to be cut, although it has been his life for nine months. And cutting this life source is the most shocking thing he will ever experience -- unless he meets a master. Because to cut a physical cord between two bodies is not a very big thing, but to cut the cord between your consciousness and your body is certainly the biggest shock...

... possible. It comes, finally -- when the season is right, and the moment has arrived that you have to be taken out of your body, out of your imprisonment, and left totally alone in your tremendous freedom. This is called, in the mystic language, the second birth. The first birth is from the mother's body. The second birth is from your own body. From the first birth, you become a personality. From the...

... OUTSIDE, AS A BODY THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BUT WAS NOT REALLY "ME"; THEN A LAYER OF MY PERSONALITY THAT WAS ALSO JUST A LAYER OF FALSENESS AND NOT REALLY "ME". AND EVEN FURTHER INSIDE WAS A SPACE THAT WAS VERY SILENT AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT THAT COULDN'T BE ME EITHER, BECAUSE IT WAS NEITHER MASCULINE NOR FEMININE, NOR COULD IT UNDERSTAND ANY LANGUAGE OF WORDS -- IT WAS JUST A NOTHINGNESS...

... his whole life, continued to say: that when the observer becomes the observed, know that you have arrived. Before that, there are thousands of things in the way. The body gives its own experiences, which have become known as the experiences of the centers of kundalini; seven centers become seven lotus flowers. Each is bigger than the other and higher, and the fragrance is intoxicating. The mind...

... BEGAN TO GET AIR, JUST A LITTLE, AND TOLD MATI NOT TO FREAK OUT IF I DROPPED THE BODY, BECAUSE I WAS STILL INTACT. IN THE HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM, WE BOTH, SIMULTANEOUSLY, FELT YOUR PRESENCE, AND ECSTATICALLY LAUGHED, TO THE DISMAY OF THE DOCTORS AND NURSES. FOR SEVEN WEEKS I WAS FLAT ON MY BACK, AND MY HEART FLOWERED AS NEVER BEFORE. THE SPINE WAS FRACTURED IN TWO PLACES, AND THIS WHOLE YEAR I HAVE...

... troublesome than moving into a new house. The moment the body comes to a point when it is no longer functioning organically -- when its inner structure is fractured, when things are not happening as they should happen, when mechanisms have run to their full capacity... Each child brings with himself at birth, the genes which tell his whole history. And soon it may become possible -- it is almost possible...

... now -- in the reports of the scientists, they say that they can read the program of the first cells that begin your life. At least they will be able to know the great events in your life: when you will become sexually mature, at what age; when you will become old, when death will strike your body just to make you free. Death is in the service of life. Life never dies. But in unconsciousness you go...

... is no death -- because deep down in their consciousness there is an absolute certainty that it is only the body that is being dropped. Life has continued always, and will continue always. Question 4: BELOVED OSHO, AT THE MOMENT, MY LIFE SEEMS TO BE AN ENDLESS DIVE INTO DEEP, DARK VALLEYS OF GREED, JEALOUSY, SELF-CONDEMNATION; DEEP PAIN, AND FEELING VERY LOST. COMING OUT OF THESE VALLEYS, I FEEL...

... MASTER, WU TZU, ONE DAY TOOK A BATH, BURNED INCENSE, SAT UPRIGHT AND SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES: "THE BODY OF REALITY IS PERFECTLY QUIESCENT, WHILE GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF GOING AND COMING. THE THOUSAND SAGES ARE FROM THE SAME SOURCE; MYRIAD AWARENESSES ARE ULTIMATELY ONE. I AM NOW A BUBBLE BURSTING - WHAT IS THE USE OF SADNESS? DON'T TROUBLE YOUR MINDS; JUST MAINTAIN COMPLETE AWARENESS. IF YOU FOLLOW...

... TZU, ONE DAY TOOK A BATH, BURNED INCENSE, SAT UPRIGHT AND SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES: 'THE BODY OF REALITY IS PERFECTLY QUIESCENT, WHILE GIVING THE APPEARANCE OF GOING AND COMING. THE THOUSAND SAGES ARE FROM THE SAME SOURCE; MYRIAD AWARENESSES ARE ULTIMATELY ONE. I AM NOW A BUBBLE BURSTING - WHAT IS THE USE OF SADNESS?'" He was going to die, he was going to leave the body that he had used up to then...

...?' AND WU TZU SAID, 'NOWHERE.'" The moment you leave the body, there are two possibilities: either your consciousness enters into another womb and again becomes imprisoned, or if you are fully aware, you don't enter in another womb, you simply enter into the universal vastness. You become one with the ocean of reality. That's why Wu Tzu said, "Nowhere. I will not be going anywhere. I will...

... simply disappear, as a dewdrop disappears into the ocean in the morning sun." It leaves no address, it leaves no footprints. It just slips silently into the ocean, without making any fuss, and then the whole ocean is the same. Millions of buddhas have disappeared in the same ocean, but as far as going is concerned, you are not going anywhere. You are going to be here, without a body, in absolute...

... freedom - no confinement, no limits, the whole sky is yours. THE MONK SAID, "WHY DON'T I SEE?" WU TZU REPLIED, "IT IS NOT VISIBLE TO THE EYE." The moment consciousness leaves the body, you cannot see it, it is not visible to the eye. But if you are an authentic disciple - if your heart is not closed but completely open - you will feel a tremendous energy exploding into the universe...

...' may enter another body - and it enters into another body if its desires have remained unfulfilled, if it needs another life to attain maturity. If there is greed, lust, anger - anything that demands a body for its expression - it will enter into some womb. But if all is fulfilled, if your contentment is absolute, there is no question of entering into another womb. You simply enter the universe...

... opposite - dropping the mind, finding every possible way to drop it so that the beyond can open, so that you can open your wings. Tozan's saying that Wu Tzu was an adept means that he has come to be and he has come to know that he is. Now, the body is needed no more. Ikkyu has written: OUR MIND - WITHOUT END, WITHOUT BEGINNING, THOUGH IT IS BORN, THOUGH IT DIES - THE ESSENCE OF EMPTINESS! Remember, the...

... Title: N.A. Audio Available: N.A. Video Available: N.A. Length: N.A. [Osho gives someone sannyas.] Sit here! Raise your hands and close your eyes and just think of yourself as a tree. Forget that you are in the human body but are in the body of a tree and these hands are like branches in the sky. It is raining and the tree is feeling very very delighted. It is windy and the tree starts swaying. Just...

... be the tree and allow . the body to feel like the tree: if it starts swaying trembling, shaking, go with it. Deva means god, arpita means surrendered - surrendered to god, surrendered to the divine. And that's my basic teaching: all that I teach is how to surrender, nothing else is needed. Man cannot do anything on his own accord. Anything done by man goes wrong because the moment you do something...

... be celibate is a very poor and weak thing and sex is tremendously strong. You are made of it, you are born out of it; every cell of your body is a sexual cell. But the weaker pretends to be the master. And why does it happen that it manages to be the master? Because it is articulate, that's all. The bottom dog is dumb: it is powerful like a wild animal but dumb. And the top dog is very weak but...

... nothing wrong in it. It has to be helped - it is dumb, so you can become its mouth. Then there is no conflict. One becomes a unity and unity is beautiful. Then one is organic, and in being organic there is grace, there is elegance; a luminosity arises in the being. So this has to be remembered: while you are here let your head disappear! Let your body be accepted, welcomed. Let your pure energies be...

... religious man. A leader is fundamentally a politician. Whether or not his politics is hidden behind religion does not matter; the very word 'leader' comes from politics. I don't have any followers here; these are all my friends. So please don't call me a religious leader -- I am just religious. Secondly, I am not criticizing America and Christianity because they have tried to destroy my body. That does...

... on I became aware of it, when the British experts in poisoning looked into my symptoms and gave the verdict, that I was given a certain poison, thallium. It is not detectable either from blood or from urine; it simply disappears. I had all the symptoms -- when the poison disappears, it leaves certain kinds of sicknesses in the body. This poison has been used against political prisoners. But if you...

... spiritual equality is needed. Just being a body is so poor. I want the Soviet Union to become richer -- not only richer in objects but richer in consciousness, in enlightenment. I want the Soviet Union also to have awakened people like Gautam Buddha, or Lao Tzu, or Chuang Tzu. I would like to introduce Zen to the Soviet Union. That is my revolution. One of the most famous spiritualists of Europe, Francis...

... Francis Israel Regardie was. A spiritualist, in the first place, knows he is not going to be born again. If he has not come to that point, he has no right to call himself a spiritualist. A person who has known his spirituality has no need to come back to any body, in any reincarnation. This imprisonment in the body is only up to the point when you become a buddha. When you become a buddha, you have...

... learned everything that life could teach you, and you have not only learned the outside world, you have learned your inner world also. Now there is nothing left. What happens to a Gautam Buddha? He simply dissolves into the universal life, into the eternal life. He does not come back to the earth in a body. This man Francis Israel Regardie knows nothing of spirituality. But in the West it is very easy...

..., because Zen has nothing to do with your social structure. Zen has nothing to do with your poverty or with your richness. Zen has nothing to do with the outside world. Zen is a science to explore the inner. Invite Zen masters, Zen mystics; that will be inviting health and wholeness. A man who believes only in the body is half, and a man who believes only in the spirit is also half. I have called Gautam...

... Buddha only half, because he denies the body, he renounces the body. I am not in absolute favor of Gautam Buddha -- only fifty percent. And that is my situation with Karl Marx also: I am in agreement only with fifty percent. His acceptance of the body is good, but his denial of the spirit is wrong. Buddha and Marx have to join hands -- that is my revolution. Bring Buddha and Marx both together, hand in...

... hand, dancing in the Soviet Union! If you cannot find Gautam Buddha and Karl Marx -- because both are dead -- I can bring my ten thousand buddhas you see all around! These people are living a whole life - - of the body and of the soul in absolute synchronicity. I can bring all my ten thousand buddhas to reach to every nook and corner of the Soviet Union. And these are not the only people with me...

...; there are two million people around the earth. If you have a real opening, I can even bring two million people to the Soviet Union, to bring a new revolution, a fresh revolution which will make the Soviet citizen a complete citizen, body and soul together. We have to live outside and we have to live inside, in deep balance, in harmony. This man Regardie must have been a hocus-pocus. At least I hope...

... could have come. I could have turned him into a meditator. And if your meditation starts blossoming you will not have any other birth in the body. You will simply disappear, like incense disappearing into the blue sky, or fragrance of roses disappearing into the blue sky. You will become part of the cosmos. And as far as I am concerned, unless you are a meditator you cannot be truly a communist...

.... Because as far as the body is concerned, no two persons are exactly equal. In their talents, in their intelligence, in their body, physical strength -- no two persons are equal as far as the body is concerned. You can give equal opportunity for growth, but the growth will bring unequal persons. Somebody will become a scientist and somebody will become a shoemaker; somebody will become a great novelist...

... whether the master takes care of everybody, whether he will look out of the window and see one monk standing outside, not coming in. "So it was not so bad that I was hungry and starving; Nansen was always holding out nourishment for me, through the window. And it was not only nourishment for my body; his attention, his care for me was also nourishment. I am nobody, and he took so much care. Every...

...; replies Himmel, "I am an American now. It is very difficult to keep kosher in America." The old lady looks at her son in shock. She hesitates for a moment and then goes up to him and whispers, "Dimmel, my son, tell me one thing -- are you still circumcised?" Nivedano... (Gibberish) Nivedano... Be silent... Close your eyes... and feel your body to be completely frozen. This is the...

... connected with the cosmos. And that is also the point which transforms you into a buddha, into an awakened one. That is also the point when you learn you are immortal: you have been here always, and you will be here always -- whether in body or no body. As you are coming closer and closer to your being, a great silence descends over you, and a great peace arises within your being. The moment you reach to...

... the very center you are no more, the buddha is. The only quality that buddha has is pure awareness consciousness witnessing. Witnessing is a key word for all meditators. Witness that you are not the body... Witness that you are not the mind... Witness that you are only a witness. Suddenly, great bliss arises in you out of nowhere flowers of invisible ecstasy start showering on you. You are at the...

..., you have been out of the mind. When you are out of the mind, you are also out of the body. In fact when you are out of the mind, you are out of time and space. Then there exist no limitations of any sort. You are simply one with this expanding universe. You are made of the same stuff as this whole blissful universe. You come back again and again into the body, but then the body is also totally new...

... because your vision has changed. Then it is no more a body of death. It is a body of life. It is no more condemned like a sin. It becomes a shrine, a temple of God. And one day the ultimate revelation happens - that the mind is also beautiful. But that happens only when you have been very much out of the mind and then you come back into it. You are free of it then. It is as if you are imprisoned. In the...

... happens when you are in the body and in the mind like a slave. You cannot enjoy it, you don't know the beauty of it; it is impossible. But once you start slipping out and coming back, slipping out and coming back, by and by you become aware of the sheer delight of the body and the sheer delight of the mind. Then you can enjoy both. And that's what my insistence is: that a real man of understanding...

... disease, any disease, first arises deep in the mind and then moves towards the body. It may take a long time to come to the body, it is a long distance. You are not aware of it when it is in the mind, you become aware of it only when it strikes hard at the roots of the body. You always feel the disease in the body, but it always originates in the mind. You are not aware of it then, so you cannot do...

... anything about it, but when it comes to the body then of course you start seeking a physician, some help. The physician, seeing it in the body, starts treating it in the body. It can be treated in the body - but then some other disease will arise, because the treatment has not gone to the very source. You have been changing the effect, but not the cause. If it can be changed in the mind, then the disease...

... will disappear from the body immediately. That's how modern research on hypnosis proves that every disease - at least in principle - can be transformed, changed, can be dropped, if the mind is changed. And the vice versa is also true: if the mind is convinced by hypnosis, then disease can be created also. Just two or three days before, somebody sent me an article of deep significance. One man - one...

... physician, a doctor in California - has treated many patients with cancer just through the imagination. This is the first clue which opens the door.... And not one patient, many. What he does is he simply tells them to imagine - -if they have cancer of the throat, he tells them to relax and imagine that the whole energy of their body is moving towards the throat, and the gland is being attacked by their...

... energy. Just like arrows from everywhere, all over - moving towards the throat and attacking the disease. Within three, four or six weeks the gland simply disappears without leaving a trace behind. And cancer is thought to be incurable! Cancer is a modern disease; it has come because of the stress, tension and anxiety of life. There has, in fact, been no cure for it up to now through the body. If...

... deep into hypnosis - because in hypnosis your trust is needed, the first requirement is your trust. The first requirement is your cooperation, and an idiot, a madman, cannot cooperate and cannot trust. Jesus could do miracles. Those miracles were simple; they happened because people were trusting. If you can trust, then the mind starts functioning from within, spreads to the body and changes...

... any medicine up to now. He has just been checking your body - blood pressure, this and that - and already you feel that fifty percent of the disease is gone. A man you can trust has come. Now there is no need to carry the burden on yourself. You can leave it to him and he will see to it. But if you don't trust the physician, he cannot do anything. In medicine, they call a certain false medicine...

... 'placebo'. It is just water - or something which has nothing to do with the illness - but if it is given to you by a physician you trust, it helps as much as the real medicine; there is no difference. Mind is more powerful than matter; mind is more powerful than the body. AND JESUS WENT ABOUT ALL GALILEE, TEACHING IN THEIR SYNAGOGUES, AND PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM, AND HEALING ALL MANNER OF...

... JERUSALEM, AND FROM JUDAEA, AND FROM BEYOND JORDAN. Jesus was less a teacher and more a healer. A healer not only of the body, not only of the mind, but of the soul also. He was a physician, a physician of the soul. That's what every Master has to be. You are divided within yourself, you are fragmentary, you are not whole. If you become whole, you will be healed. If the tensions for the future and the...

... moment. You are breathing God; your very heartbeat is God's heartbeat. But God is so close... even the word "close" is not right. because the word "close" or "closeness" shows distance. This fan is close to me, but it is separate. This microphone is even more closer, but still it is separate. The body is even more closer, but it is still separate. God is inseparable with...

... are still awake even while asleep. You look so alive, so fresh! And one thing more - you never change your posture. You go to sleep and you wake up in the same posture. What is the secret of it?" Buddha said, "There is no secret in it. The BODY goes to sleep; once you are awake you are awake! - whether it is day or night makes no difference, the inner flame goes on burning. The body goes...

... to sleep because the body gets tired, and now there is no mind any more so no question of the mind arises at all." There are only two things. In the unenlightened person there are three things: the body, the mind, the soul. And because of the mind he cannot see the soul. The mind is a turmoil, a chaos; it is all smoke, it is all clouds. The enlightened has no mind; there is only silence. So he...

... has the body and he has the soul. The body tires, needs rest, but the soul is never tired, needs no rest; it is always awake. The body is always asleep and the soul is always awake. The nature of body is to be unconscious and the nature of the soul is to be conscious. These are intrinsic qualities. Once the mind is no more there, then even in your sleep only the body sleeps, not you. In the East we...

...." The next morning Johnson noticed a newspaper item about the body of an unknown woman that had been fished out of the river. The description of her clothes fitted the woman he had befriended. He was puzzled. He met Brown at lunch. "What did you do after you left us yesterday?" asked Brown. "I walked home," said Johnson. "Did you spend any money?" "No. Why?"...

...... and he is still presiding! After two hundred years he is still presiding in that medical college. His body has been preserved. His body sits in the place of the chairman... and the board meeting and he presides. Of course somebody else does the whole work as acting president, but the real president is there in the chair! Even people don't want to retire after death - he has not retired. Now just...

... for a morning walk: in a way you are moving, in a way you are not moving. Your body is moving, your mind is moving, but your consciousness is the same. You were a child, then you became young, then old. Everything has moved and yet nothing has moved; your consciousness is still the same. That's why it is very difficult... if you don't keep a record, if you don't have a birth certificate, if you...

... body moves, but something in you remains unmoving. IT MOVES, YET MOVES NOT. IT IS FAR, YET IT IS NEAR. It is far if you go through the mind, it is very far. In fact, it is so far you will never reach it. But if you go THROUGH meditation it is very near, nearer than your own ego; it is the nearest. It is your very being, but it depends. If you go through the mind, then you have taken the longest route...