..., hesitates, takes one step forwards and one step backwards and then takes the plunge and moves into the womb. And when you can remember it, even vaguely - just like two shadows making love.... It will not be very clear, because it cannot be. It will be just a very vague feeling of two shadows making love, and you are hesitating.... Then you can remember even further back - the death that happened before...

... this life. And then there will be another scream which is even more primal than the primal scream. That is the death cry. What janov calls 'the primal scream' is a birth cry. It is nothing compared to that. It will come... it is there. The primal scream simply opens the door to the death scream. So don't stop there - go ahead. Go more deeply into it. And once you have come to see the death scream and...

... style of thinking and the old patterns of the mind continue then the new cannot arise, because the new arises only out of the death of the old. When the old ceases, only then the new arises. So this is a transitory period - where the old has collapsed and the new is so new and unfamiliar that you have not yet settled with it. It is just like changing a house. One is taking all one's things away in a...

... grow it. You yourself have to become the soil. Your ego has to die, just as the seed dies in the soil. Once the seed dissolves itself into the soil a miracle happens: something that was unmanifest becomes manifest, something that was invisible becomes visible, the unknown comes into the world of the known. In the seed it was not visible, in the sprout it is visible: the green leaves and the red...

... flowers and the miracle is on the way... growth has started happening. The seed was stagnant, the plant is a river. Bliss is a flower but you have to become the soil, and the ego has to die in the soil like the seed dies, then you can also know the invisible, then you can also manifest the unmanifested. That's what happens to a Jesus, to a Buddha, to a Lao Tzu: something of the unknown starts...

... transcendence] Bliss is a state of transcendence, transcendence of all duality: day and night, summer and winter, life and death, love and hate, good and bad, even God and the devil. When all duality has been transcended you fall in unity with existence. All separation disappears. There is no I and thou, there is only one, indivisible. That state is bliss and that state is a state of flowering. You become a...

... only the peace, but without the roots of love, you can only have a plastic flower... And never be satisfied with plastic flowers, because you cannot carry plastic flowers with you beyond death. But real flowers can be carried with you; their fragrance will go with you, their fragrance is eternal. Even death cannot destroy it. [Rebelling against the mind brings clarity of consciousness] Only rebellion...

... society not towards truth, not towards tranquility, not towards godliness; you have led society towards death. The punks and the skinheads are simply reminders that you have failed. The Western civilization has come to its end. Naturally it is always the youth who are most vulnerable to what is coming, are more perceptive. They can see that death is coming, that all Western scientists, Western...

... than man. The Eastern genius is trying to reach to the stars, and the Western genius is simply preparing for death. These punks and these skinheads are just trying to say something to you; they are symbolic. They know you are deaf, and you will not listen. Something drastic has to be done so that you start thinking, "What has gone wrong? Why are our children behaving in this way?" What do...

... you want? - you are preparing for nuclear warfare; you are preparing for the death of all life on this earth. Those people are not strange phenomena: you are a strange phenomenon. They are simpy revolting against you, and it will be good to listen to them. And it will be good to change the way the West has followed up to now, the way of materialism. I am not against materialism, but materialism...

... alone can lead only to death, because matter is dead. I am absolutely in favor of materialism, if it serves spiritual needs. If materialism is a servant, and not the master, then it is perfectly good. It can do miracles to help humanity, to raise it in consciousness, in rejoicing, to raise humanity beyond humanity. You are proving Charles Darwin wrong - because monkeys were more intelligent than you...

... lived. Many of the people realize that they were alive only when they die - but then it is too late. So don't unnecessarily condemn Germans; it is a human phenomenon, the same all over the world. Everybody is planning for the next year. There are even people in the East who are planning for the next life! But nobody is worried about this moment, which is the only reality. If you want to live, live now...

... don't want anybody to miss this opportunity. Question 20: THE OTHER DAY YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE A MIRROR. WHAT DO YOU SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF IN YOUR BATHROOM MIRROR IN THE MORNING? Just nothing! Question 21: J. KRISHNAMURTI DIED LAST MONDAY, IN OJAI, CALIFORNIA. IN THE PAST YOU HAVE SPOKEN OF HIM AS ANOTHER ENLIGHTENED BEING. WOULD YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON HIS DEATH? The death of an enlightened...

... being like J. Krishnamurti is nothing to be sad about, it is something to be celebrated with songs and dances. It is a moment of rejoicing. His death is not a death. He knows his immortality. His death is only the death of the body. But J. Krishnamurti will go on living in the universal consciousness, forever and forever. Generated by PreciseInfo ™ ...

..., THE First THING about Prem Chinmaya s death is that it was not a death at all. He died very consciously. Ie died so beautifully! It was rare. Ten years ago when he came to me I was afraid that he might die before he could taste something of deathlessness, because he was suffering from such a disease... it was incurable. But he was a rare individual. He lived for these ten year.s by the simple...

... more and more unique individuals, more and more authentic individuals. I would like you to take the responsibility of your life upon your own shoulders totally so that you become completely free of all kinds of father figures. That brings great blessing and great benediction. The second question: Question 2: OSHO, PLEASE SAY SOMETHING TO US ABOUT SWAMI PREM CHINMAYA'S DEATH YESTERDAY. PREM SAMADHI...

... strength of his individuality. His body was not capable of living. The doctors were puzzled, the physicians were unbelieving, but I knew the secret. He was not afraid of death, but he wanted to grow to a certain point before death happened. And he managed it! And the moment he was ready I allowed him to go. I had to tell him, "Now you can drop your body." A deep communion had started between me...

... done whatsoever was needful, he ha.s attained to a certain integrity. Yes, he will be born once more, but that is a great achievement." He died from his sixth center. To attain to the seventh would have been almost impossible in such a condition; even this was almost a miracle to achieve - to die from such a height. The moment Sheela reached Chinmaya's room he immediately said, "Did Osho...

... closed his eyes and disappeared. This is not death, this is something far more beautiful. This is let-go. This is surrender. This is love! He trusted me so totally. He died beautifully, silently, in utter relaxation. I am happy about him. I was afraid that he may not be able to survive even these years, but it was through his sheer determination, his sheer will power that he survived. The body would...

... the time, then this is the right time, and I don't want to miss it." He never wanted to let me down. He loved me tremendously. His name, Prem Chinmaya, means love and consciousness. He was both. He was love and he became consciousness. He died with great love and with great consciousness. It is not death at all, Samadhi - it is transcendence of death. Soon he will be back, and whenever he comes...

... limitations of the body. The body has to become old, sometimes it will be ill, some day it has to die, but that is only one percent. And if ninety-nine percent of misery can disappear, that one percent can be accepted, joyously accepted; there is no problem about it. The last question: Question 4: OSHO, I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY SANNYASINS THAT WE NEED TO DO NOTHING AT ALL; "LET OSHO DO IT."...

.... If you want to understand me you will have to put Gurdjieff aside. I love the man, I love him immensely, I respect the man, but my ways are totally different. But old habits die hard... An American teacher is tired of seeing her white students fight with the black ones who are forbidden to use the school bus. So one day she calls them together and says, "Boys, what are all these...

.... The physical birth is not the true birth; you will have to be born again. Jesus says to Nicodemus, "Unless you are born again, you will not enter into the kingdom of my God." What does he mean? Is Nicodemus to die first physically? No. Jesus means something totally different: he has to die as an ego, he has to die as a personality. He has to die as a past. He has to die as mind. Only when...

... you die as mind are you born as a being. In the East we have called the buddhas the twice-born - dwij. Other people are only once-born; a buddha is twice-born. The first gift of life is through the parents; the second gift you have to give to yourself. You can choose between these three dimensions. If you choose one dimension you will attain a certain integrity, but because it is one-dimensional it...

.... Unconscious utterings. Now, this man may have been crying and saying to his wife, "Without you it will be impossible to live. I will always remain empty without you, a part of my soul will die with you..." and things like that. But now, in this moment, he has forgotten all. THE FOOL IS CARELESS. BUT THE MASTER GUARDS HIS WATCHING. IT IS HIS MOST PRECIOUS TREASURE. The fool remains a slave - a...

... hundred of your desires, ninety-nine are absolutely useless. They simply keep you occupied; that is their only function. They keep you away from yourself; that is their only utility. They don't allow you time, space to be with yourself. They are dangerous. It is because of these unnecessary things that you will waste your life, and you will die a bankrupt. ...THE MASTER GUARDS HIS WATCHING. I have heard...

... driving the car, smoking the cigarette, talking to the friend, and thinking a thousand and one thoughts inside. Most accidents happen because of this. More men are dying every year in car, train, airplane and similar accidents than die in war. Adolf Hitler may not have killed as many people as are being killed every year by the mechanical behavior of man around the earth. But what can you do? That's...

... is nowhere yet, it has not come. But you want to do something tomorrow, and because you want to do something tomorrow you have created a psychological tomorrow. And people are creating years ahead, lives ahead. They are even thinking about what to do after life, after death. They are even preparing for that! And these people are thought to be religious; they are not religious at all. Desire takes...

.... SWIFT AS THE RACE HORSE HE OUTSTRIPS THE FIELD. MINDFUL AMONG THE MINDLESS, AWAKE WHILE OTHERS DREAM. That is the difference between Buddha and others. Others are only dreaming, not really living; hoping to live some day, preparing to live, but not living. And that day never comes - before that day comes death. A buddha is awake. Even while he is asleep he does not dream. When desires disappear...

... fire - it burns your thoughts, your desires, your memories; it burns the past and the future. It burns your mind and the ego. It takes away all that you think that you are. It is a death and a rebirth, a crucifixion and a resurrection. You are born anew. You lose your own identity totally, and you attain to a new vision of life. That vision of life is what is meant by god, dhamma, tao, logos. You can...

... are going to do now, I have done years before. When the head falls, you will see it falling on the earth and I will also see it falling on the earth." Alexander said, "How will you see it? You will be dead!" Dandamesh said, "That is the point: I cannot die anymore, I have become a witness. I will witness my death as much as you will witness. It will happen between us two - you...

... remembered that they had something that goes beyond death, "And I have nothing." He wept, tears came to his eyes, and he said to his ministers, "When I die and you carry my body to the cemetery, let my hands hang out of the casket." The ministers asked, "But this is not the tradition! Why? Why such a strange request?" Alexander said, "I would like people to see that I...

... know it intuitively, hence they do everything to escape from your hands. They remain elusive, they don't become too readily available. They are aware - intuitively aware, not intellectually - intuitively aware of the phenomenon that all this attraction will be gone soon and all this great love will die soon. Everything dies; everything that is born is bound to die. They are far more intelligent that...

... it has been used so much it has lost its meaning, its savor, its salt, it has lost its beauty. But now it can be revived again; now nobody is talking about bliss. But whether you call it peace or bliss is irrelevant. Just understand one thing: that it takes you beyond all dualities. Day and night, summer and winter, life and death, pain and pleasure - it takes you beyond all dualities - love and...

... the chosen few, only for those who have really come thirsty, inquiring, who really want to risk all to know God, who are ready to die for truth, who are ready to become sacrifices. IT IS BETTER TO CONQUER YOURSELF THAN TO WIN A THOUSAND BATTLES. And in peace is victory. When peace surrounds you within and without, you are overflowing with peace, you have come home, you have conquered yourself, you...

... your victory will be taken away by death." And the second story: When he was going back from India.... His teacher had told him, "When you come back from India, bring a sannyasin, because that is the greatest contribution of India to the world." The phenomenon of a sannyasin is uniquely Indian. Nowhere else has the idea of transcending the world totally captured the minds of people as...

... understand immediately. He was saying that, "Now there is no more coming in the world and no more going out of the world. I have transcended all coming and going." What in the East we call AVAGAMAN - coming and going; coming into the womb and then going into death. Alexander said, "But this is a commandment - I command you! You have to follow. This is the order from the great Alexander!"...

...; Dandamesh laughed. The same laughter - again Alexander remembered Diogenes - the same laughter. Dandamesh said, "Nobody can command me, not even death." Alexander said, "You don't understand - I am a dangerous man!" He pulled out his sword and he said, "Either you will come with me or I will cut off your head." Dandamesh said, "Do it, cut off the head - because what you...

... possessiveness will create anguish for you. Abide with that which is really yours, which nobody can take away from you. It cannot be stolen, you cannot be robbed of it, you cannot go bankrupt as far as it is concerned. Even death cannot take it. Krishna says: NAINAM CHHINDANTI SHASTRANI - you cannot cut it by weapons, swords cannot penetrate it, arrows cannot reach to it, bullets are absolutely powerless as...

... they had been born - one reaches. And once one cell has reached the female egg, the egg closes. The others are left out just to die. And it is not a small passage for those poor people who are hanging between life and death. It is not a simple question. If the living cell was the size of a man, six feet, then the track he has to move along will proportionately be two miles. Two miles they have to go...

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... all religions and forget the past completely, you will see an immense explosion of warmth, love, hugging, touching, and for the first time you will feel alive. The whole effort in the past has been to make you as little alive as possible, more dead, just surviving somehow, breathing somehow, dragging yourself to your grave, waiting for death to come to release you. And your body is such a beautiful...

... find differences in energy. The quality, the force, the intensity, the flavor, the fragrance of it - everything is unique with every individual. But when you shake hands in a cold way, or hug a body as if two skeletons are meeting in a graveyard, then there is no difference. Life gives you uniqueness; death destroys your uniqueness. Two dead bodies are exactly the same, just dead, but two living...

... listening, learning, being programmed by their nonsense, so much so that you cannot see a simple contradiction: they are teaching you to be greedy! Here renounce, so after death you can get a millionfold. Great! Is this some kind of spiritual lottery? It cannot be business. In business you can get a few percent profit, but a millionfold? So the greedy people have become religious. And the rewards for your...

... senses. Five senses are the accepted number of senses around the world, although we should change it now because there is a sixth sense hidden in your ears. But old habits die hard. And that sixth sense is far more important than any other; that's why it has been kept hidden in your ears, so nothing can disturb it. That is the sense of balance. When you drink too much, that sense gets affected; you...

... nearabout thirty years of age that people die. And after that they may live fifty years, but that is a posthumous existence. They go on living because they have got into the habit of living. Just the way they go on smoking, they go on living - how to drop the habit? But life is not a habit, life is a continuous inquiry, exploration. Life is a journey of discovery, and unless you have discovered the...

... against the whole history of thousands of prophets and messiahs of all the countries, of all the nations. Naturally you become serious, and your seriousness makes you feel dead. Seriousness belongs to the dead. Have you ever seen any dead man laughing? Or even smiling? Laughter belongs to life; seriousness is part of death. The living person is always playful, not serious. And because I say making love...

...From Death to Deathlessness...

... you are you will have to die, and unless you die the new cannot be born. The new is hidden in you. You are just a seed for it, and the seed must fall down, absorbed by the earth. The seed must die; only then the new will arise out of you. Your death will become your new life. Yoga is both a death and a new birth. Unless you are ready to die, you cannot be reborn. So it is not a question of changing...

... what can be, what should be, what ought to be. One is not interested! One is interested only in that which is, because only the real can free you, only the reality can become liberation. Total despair is needed. That despair is called dukkha by Buddha. And if you are really in misery, don't hope, because your hope will only prolong the misery. Your hope is a drug. It can help you to reach death only...

... and nowhere else. All your hopes can lead you only to death. They are leading. Become totally hopeless - no future, no hope. Difficult. Needs courage to face the real. But such a moment comes to everyone, some time or other. A moment comes to every human being when he feels total hopelessness. Absolute meaninglessness happens to him. When he becomes aware that whatsoever he is doing is useless...

.... You will come to the truth, but not through belief, but through your own experience, through your own realization. That means you will have to be totally changed. Your viewpoints, your way of life, your mind, your psyche has to be shattered completely as it is. Something new has to be created. Only with that new will you come in contact with the reality. So yoga is both a death and a new life. As...

...: the laws of its transformation, the laws of how to die and how to be reborn again, the laws of a new order of being. That is why I call it a science. Patanjali is rare. He is an enlightened person like Buddha, like Krishna, like Christ, like Mahavira, Mohammed, Zarathustra, but he is different in one way. Buddha, Krishna, Mahavira, Zarathustra, Mohammed no one has a scientific attitude. They are...

... desires, if you see your life as meaningless - whatsoever you have been doing up to now has simply fallen dead nothing remains in the future, you are in absolute despair - what Kierkegaard calls anguish. If you are in anguish, suffering, not knowing what to do, not knowing where to go, not knowing to whom to look, just on the verge of madness or suicide or death, your whole pattern of life suddenly has...

.... Intellectually you can become interested, through your mind you can be related to yoga, but yoga is nothing if it is not a discipline. Yoga is not a shastra; it is not a scripture. It is a discipline. It is something you have to do. It is not curiosity; it is not philosophic speculation. It is deeper than that. It is a question of life and death. If the moment has come where you feel that all directions have...

..., THE SEEDLESS SAMADHI IS ATTAINED, AND WITH IT, FREEDOM FROM LIFE AND DEATH. KNOWLEDGE IS indirect, knowing is direct. Knowledge is through many mediums; it is not reliable. Knowing is immediate, without any medium. Only knowing can be reliable. This distinction has to be remembered. Knowledge is like a messenger comes and tells something to you: the messenger may have misunderstood the message; the...

... young, now you are old. What is happening? - you don't have a fixed form. The form is continuously flowing and changing. A child is becoming a young man, the young man is becoming old, the old is moving into death. Then you suddenly see: birth is not birth, death is not death. There are changing forms, and the formless remains the same. You can see that luminous formlessness always remaining the same...

..., moving amidst millions of forms, changing, yet not changing; moving, yet not moving; becoming everything else and yet remaining the same. And that's the beauty and the mystery; then life is one - a vast ocean of life. Then you don't see alive beings and dead beings, no, because death doesn't exist. It is because of the mechanism, wrong interpretation. Neither exists birth nor death. That which exists...

... becomes a door, everything! With your intensity of look, all the doors are open for you. WHEN THIS CONTROLLING OF ALL OTHER CONTROLS IS TRANSCENDED, THE SEEDLESS SAMADHI IS ATTAINED, AND WITH IT, FREEDOM FROM LIFE AND DEATH. This is where all the paths culminate, all the Buddhas meet: Tantra and Yoga, Zen and Hassid, Sufi and Baul - all the paths. Paths may be different - they are - but now this comes...

... the last control. Still you are, not as an ego, but as a self. Still you are separate from the known - just a very transparent veil, but it is there - and if you cling to this you will be born, because the division has not been transcended; you have not attained to non-duality yet. The seed of duality is still there, and that seed will sprout into new lives and the wheel of life and death will go on...

... moving. WHEN THIS CONTROLLING OF ALL OTHER CONTROLS IS TRANSCENDED, THE SEEDLESS SAMADHI IS ATTAINED - THEN YOU ATTAIN THE NIRVICHARA SAMADHI, SEEDLESS - AND WITH IT, FREEDOM FROM LIFE AND DEATH. Then the wheel stops for you. Then there is no time, no space. Life and death have both disappeared like a dream. How to transcend this last control? - it is the most difficult. To attain to nirvichara is very...

... disappears. Because it is created by your doing; when you don't do, it disappears. It is fed by your doing. When you don't do, it disappears, and when the doing has disappeared and you have transcended all control, then there is no life and no death, because life is of the doer, death is of the doer. Now you are no more; you have dissolved. You have dissolved like a piece of salt thrown into the ocean...

... 'What nonsense! One has to be spontaneous. And I had never thought that a man like you would expect those stupid rules - three thousand or eighty thousand...' He could have retorted, and missed. Yoka replied 'Birth and death is a problem of great moment; all changes ceaselessly.' It looks unrelated; it is not. He is saying 'Any moment I can die. Do you want me to follow all that ritual - eighty...

... thousand rules? And if I die following those eighty thousand rules, then who will be responsible? Who will be responsible for my misery, for my rebirth into misery again, you or I?' He has not said that, he simply indicates. It is a beautiful answer: 'Birth and death is a problem of great moment. And we are not certain even of the next moment - how can I go into those rules?' But he has not said so much...

..., he has simply indicated why he is not following all those rules. '... all changes ceaselessly - everything is a flux. I can die any moment. If you say so, I will bow down as many times as you say, but if I die in the middle of it without becoming enlightened you will be responsible, sir.' He has changed the label. The Master has pushed and he has rightly responded. The Master asked 'Why not embody...

... the unborn and grasp the timeless? Why be worried about death and birth?' Another push, another provocation, another temptation. 'Why not embody the unborn? Why don't you yourself think that there is no death, that the soul is immortal, that life never dies? Everybody else believes that, why don't you believe that way? Embody the unborn and grasp the timeless - why be worried with time and flux and...

... can I embody it and how can I grasp the timeless? There is only one way and that is to BE. And I am not yet. I have not seen it yet. I have heard all these philosophies, I can believe in them - millions of people believe in them - but belief never leads to knowing. Only being is needed. And I am not yet, sir, I am not yet deathless. I don't know. All that I know is death. All that I know is time...

... question. I am simply being polite in answering you. You are the cause of it.' The Master was immensely happy and exclaimed 'You have grasped birthlessness splendidly!' Because if one can know, if one can see, that time is unreal, then birth and death have both disappeared - because they exist in time, they are events of time. If time itself is unreal, then birth and death disappear. This is liberation...

... real Master is to face your death, is to face your annihilation. That's why Zen is known as the sudden enlightenment, the doctrine abrupt. Hubert Benoit also says that SATORI has two meanings. One is the SATORI-state in which everybody is: the birds and the trees and the mountains and you and all the Buddhas - past, present, future. The whole existence is in the state of SATORI. This is another way...