... - KILLED? OR WAS IT A SERMON OF DEATH THAT CALLED HOLY THAT WHICH CONTRADICTED AND OPPOSED ALL LIFE? - O MY BROTHERS, SHATTER, SHATTER THE OLD LAW-TABLES!... ... THUS SPAKE ZARATHUSTRA. Zarathustra was a contemporary of Heraclitus and Gautam Buddha. It is a strange coincidence that all these three great teachers have basically given a single approach to life: life is a flux, everything is constantly...

... changing, and that which does not change is dead. Change is the very spirit of life; permanency is part of death. It was against all the old traditions and against all other traditions which were going to be born after Zarathustra. They were all believers in permanence. To them, change was a quality of dreams, and permanence was the quality of reality - that which changes is unreal and that which remains...

... truth has been crucified. Lies have been crowned and truth has been sentenced to death. The situation has not changed even a little bit; it is still the same. Say the truth and you make everybody annoyed with you. Say the truth and you irritate all those people who were very comfortable in their lies. You have disturbed their peace, you have disturbed their sleep, you have disturbed their sweet dreams...

... consciousness within me? Who am I?", he is going to ask. It is already late; he should have asked it by now. And the greatest of the scientists have started feeling uneasy about the fact that they are devoting so much energy to exploring objects, and they are not giving even a small portion of their genius and talents to their own being. Albert Einstein was dying, and before his death somebody asked him...

... there, not flowing like a river. But they do not know that mountains are also flowing. Every day hundreds of stars die and hundreds of new stars are born. This planet was not here four billion years ago, and in the eternity of time, four billion years mean nothing. And the scientists who are working on our sun are very much concerned, because its fuel is being spent every day that it is radiating...

... light. It can last, at the most, a few million years more. And after a few million years, suddenly the sun will go dark; it will die. Where even suns die and suns are born, what can be stable? What are you saying about bridges? What you are saying about values of good and evil? Nothing is firmly fixed. BUT WHEN HARD WINTER COMES, THE ANIMAL-TAMER OF STREAMS, THEN EVEN THE CLEVEREST LEARN MISTRUST; AND...

... difference, a corpse is a corpse. Death is a great equalizer. Perhaps Russia is trying to make this planet a communist planet - a big graveyard. And America is preparing... in the name of democracy, in the name of freedom of expression - beautiful names to befool people, to deceive people. And they go on piling up nuclear weapons and nobody asks them, "All these weapons that you have accumulated can...

... belongs to no religious leader; it belongs to no church and it belongs to no nation. It belongs to those who love life, who sing songs of life, and who are ready to dance and celebrate life. Life belongs to those who can make it a celebration. OR WAS IT A SERMON OF DEATH THAT CALLED HOLY THAT WHICH CONTRADICTED AND OPPOSED ALL LIFE? - O MY BROTHERS, SHATTER, SHATTER THE OLD LAW-TABLES! - because all the...

... sermons in your so-called holy books are not in favor of life; they are sermons of death. And they are called holy! Then what can we call unholy? They all contradict and oppose life. This should be remembered as a simple criterion: that which opposes life is unholy; that which praises life, that which makes life lovelier, more beautiful, more enjoyable, that which affirms life and its dignity - that is...

.... Bring some light - just a candle will do - and the snake is no longer found. It was never there in the first place. Birth is as illusory as the snake seen in a rope; and if birth is illusory, of course death is illusory. You are never born and you never die. You certainly enter into a body - that is a birth - and one day you leave the body - that's what you call death - but as far as you are concerned...

...: N.A. Audio Available: N.A. Video Available: N.A. Length: N.A. The first question Question 1: OSHO, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE? Prem Pramod, There is no heaven anywhere, it is here. It is always here, it is never there. It is always now, it is never then. The very idea of heaven somewhere else - there, then - is a strategy of the mind to deceive you, to keep you ignorant of...

..., you were before your birth and you will be after your death. Birth and death don't confine your life; there have been many births and many deaths. Births and deaths are just small episodes in the eternity of your life, and the moment you become aware of this eternity - another name for now, this timelessness - all fear, all anxiety about death immediately evaporates just as dewdrops evaporate in the...

... early morning sun. So the second thing, Pramod: I am not going to die. Certainly, one day I will leave the body - in fact I left it twenty-five years ago. There is no longer any connection with the body. I am just a guest, I don't own it. I am no longer part of it, it is no longer part of me. We are together, and on friendly terms - there is no antagonism, I respect it because it gives me shelter...

... am shot I will not be proved right. Once they shoot me, I will be proved right. Then the same people will start feeling guilty and will start worshipping me. That's how it has always happened. Now they cannot forget Socrates because they poisoned him, they cannot forget Jesus because they killed him, they cannot forget Al-Hillaj because they murdered him. The best way for me to die will be for me...

... to be shot, because then it will become absolutely necessary for people to remember me. I would not like to die on a bed - that doesn't look very great! The last question Question 3: OSHO, IS THE INNOCENCE OF SMALL CHILDREN JUST IGNORANCE, OR HAS IT GOT ANY VALUE TOO? The innocence of the children is ignorance, it is not true innocence. The true innocence happens only after the second birth. The...

... to start listening to yourself. You must come back to the original state in the end. Before you die you must become an innocent child again - loose, natural; because in death again you are entering the dimension of being alone. Just as you were in the womb, in death again you will enter in the realm of being alone. No society exists there. And the whole of your life you have to find a few spaces in...

... flexible, the younger; the more rigid, the older. Death is absolute rigidity. Life is absolute looseness, flexibility. This you have to remember and then try to understand Tilopa. His final words: THE SUPREME UNDERSTANDING TRANSCENDS ALL THIS AND THAT. THE SUPREME ACTION EMBRACES GREAT RESOURCEFULNESS WITHOUT ATTACHMENT. THE SUPREME ACCOMPLISHMENT IS TO REALIZE IMMANENCE WITHOUT HOPE. Very very...

..., difficult to understand. Tilopa sees the suchness of things; he is without choice. He sees both the morning and the evening together, he sees both the thorns and the flower together, he sees both the pain and the pleasure together, he sees both the birth and death together. He has no choice of his own. He is neither a pessimist nor an optimist - he lives without hope. And that is a really wonderful...

... is no need for any improvement, change, development, growth, no need. Nothing can be done about it. It is simply the case. Once you go deeply into this - that it is simply the case - suddenly all flowers and all thorns disappear, days and nights disappear, life and death disappear, summer and winter disappear. Nothing is left - because the clinging disappears. And with the acceptance of whatsoever...

... you are going to die, the possibility is there - not because he had known your future, but because he has predicted the future. Now the thirteenth of March will move in your mind continuously: you will not be able to sleep without it, you will not be able to dream without it, you will not be able to love without it. Twenty-fours hours: "The thirteenth of March and I am going to die." It...

... will become a self-hypnosis, a chanting. It will go round and round; the nearer the thirteenth of March will come, the faster it will move. And it will self-fulfill: thirteenth of March.... It happened once that a German palmist predicted his own death. He had been predicting many people's death and it happened, so he became certain that his prediction was something; otherwise, how was it happening...

...? And he was getting old so a few friends suggested, "Why not predict your own?" So he studied the hands and charts and everything - all foolish - and then he decided about his own death: that it was going to happen on such and such a date, six o'clock early in the morning. And then he waited for it. Six was approaching; from five o'clock he was ready, sitting at the clock. Each moment, and...

... death was coming nearer and nearer and nearer. And then came just the last moment - one moment more and the clock would say it is six, and he is still alive, how is it possible? Seconds started passing, and exactly when the clock struck six he jumped out of the window... because how is it possible.... And of course, he died exactly as predicted. Mind has a self-fulfilling mechanism. Be alert about it...

...; it is beautiful - fall"? Just the word "fall" and fear comes in, because falling means falling into an abyss, losing your ground, moving into the unknown. And falling carries a sense of death - one becomes afraid. Have you ever gone to some mountains, a high peak, and from there you looked down into the abyss, the valley?Nausea, trembling, fear comes in as if the abyss is death and...

... possible; allow it to happen. Don't hope for it, don't ask for it, don't go ahead of yourself, but allow it to happen, because then the third danger comes when the Ganges falls into the ocean, and that is the last because you will be losing yourself. That is the ultimate death. It appears like the ultimate death. Even the Ganges shudders, trembles before it falls; even the Ganges looks backwards, thinks...

... yellow, when anything dies it becomes yellow. Yellow is death approaching close by. Yellow is the shadow of death. But why should it be told to the Duke that the horse is yellow? Because only if somebody accepts death totally is he fearless, otherwise not. The Buddhist monk has accepted death, has accepted yellow, the colour of death, with great gratitude, with reverence. He is ready to die any moment...

... chemicals running in your veins, in your arteries, in your blood, some hormones released by your glands - that's what love is. Now tell a mother that the love that she has for her child is nothing but hormonal; tell a woman who has fallen in love with a man and is ready to sacrifice her whole life, is ready to die, will be happy to die for this man, tell her that it is just hormonal.... And you are not...

.... Secondly, the yellow is symbolic of the sun - vitality radiance, aliveness, youth, life. So he is saying that the great horse is very much alive - as yellow as the sun, as vital as the sun. And thirdly, yellow is the colour of death. That is why Buddha has chosen yellow as the colour for his BHIKKHUS for his BHIKKHUS. Their robes were yellow. Why? Why the colour of death? When a leaf dies it becomes...

..., hence there is no fear. All fear is of death; behind all your fears there is death. Sooner or later, if you go on looking, you will find death standing behind all fears. So unless one is completely in deep acceptance with death, in harmony with death, one cannot be fearless. The old man says that the colour of the horse is yellow. He says that he is just like a Buddhist monk - he does not worry about...

... death, hence he is fearless. THE DUKE SENT SOMEONE TO FETCH IT. IT TURNED OUT TO BE A STALLION AND BLACK. THE DUKE, DISPLEASED, SUMMONED PO-LO. 'HE'S NO GOOD, THE FELLOW YOU SENT TO FIND ME HORSES. HE CANNOT EVEN TELL ONE COLOUR FROM ANOTHER, OR A MARE FROM A STALLION. WHAT CAN HE KNOW ABOUT HORSES?' PO-LO BREATHED A SIGH OF WONDER. 'SO NOW HE HAS RISEN TO THIS?' This is the beauty of Tao. They are...

... the Freudian opposition. For Freud, conscious is conscious and unconscious is unconscious. The difference is that of white and black, yes and no, life and death. When I say "unconscious" I mean "less conscious". When I say "conscious" I mean "less unconscious". They overlap each other. So what to do to encounter the unconscious? As far as Freud is concerned...

... more spread, and only a very minor part of you remains conscious. Sometimes even that part is not there either - you become completely unconscious. But in a sudden accident: you are on the road and suddenly you feel that an accident is going to be there and you are on the verge of death - you suddenly become conscious and there is no unconscious at all. The whole mind is conscious. And this change is...

...! Howsoever you try, the problem is such that it cannot be solved. They call such problems "koans" - absurd problems. For example, they will say to some seeker, "Find out what your original face is." And by original face they mean the face you had before you were born, or the face you will have after you die - the original face. They will say, "Find out how your original face looks...

... with a sudden method it can happen that you may simply die. With a sudden method it can happen that you may suddenly go mad - because the phenomenon is so sudden that you cannot conceive of it. You just drop, shattered. This happened in the Gita. Arjuna is forcing Krishna to reveal his cosmic form. Krishna goes on talking about other things, but Arjuna is persistent and he says, "I must see. I...

... cannot believe unless I see. If you are really a god, then reveal to me your cosmic from!" Krishna reveals it, but it is so sudden, and Arjuna is not prepared at all. He begins to cry and says to Krishna, "Close it! Close it! I am scared to death!" So if you come to it through some sudden method, it is dangerous. Sudden methods are there, but they can be practised only in a group - in a...

... were destroyed and school methods dropped out of practice - because a wandering monk cannot practise sudden methods. He may be in a village, but no one may know anything about it, and if he practises a sudden method and the happening happens, then he will be in danger: he will have to die. So Mahavir, Buddha and, later on, Shankaracharya, all these three, insisted that monks go on wandering...

... meditation is a very powerful method - very powerful - to know one's own abyss and to know one s own naked reality. And once you have known it, you become the master. Then just say something, and things begin to take shape. In that encounter, if you say, "I must die this moment," you will die that very moment. If you say, "I must become a Buddha this very moment," you will become a...

... - bracket everything out. With gradual methods religion can be one thing among others. For sudden methods religion has to be totalitarian; nothing else can be allowed. When someone would go to Gurdjieff, he would ask, "Are you ready to die for it? Nothing less will do. Are you ready to die for it?" That means, "Are you ready to leave everything for it?" Total consciousness is needed...

.... It is not necessary to die, but one has to be ready to die for it. For gradual methods, such is not the requirement. You can go on living and doing something. By and by, the doing will gradually become greater, and without even becoming aware, some day you will become ready to die for it. But this growth is like the growth of a pregnancy: by and by. Even the mother is not aware of what is going on...

... born as a unity, and the same child dies as a crowd - as a crowd! totally a madhouse! Everywhere he has been divided, and between these divisions there is constant conflict, struggle, and the energy is dissipated. And you really never die; you kill yourself. We are all committing suicide, because this dissipation of energy is suicide. So it is rare that a person dies - rare! Everyone has killed...

... your capacity to love will be so narrowed down that it will freeze. It is as if we are telling a tree to cut all the roots and let there be only one root. If you tell the tree, "Let there be only one root for your love. Let this be your only love - get everything from this root," the tree is going to die. We have created a monogamous mind, not loving. That's why there are so many wars, so...

... loving anyone. A child is born to love the whole world, a child is born to love everything, a child is born to love the whole universe - with such a big capacity that if you narrow it down then the child has begun to die from that very moment. But why this monopoly? Why this possessive attitude? It is a vicious circle. The mother is not fulfilled herself. She has not loved, she has not been loved, so...

... tremendously beautiful loses its meaning. That's why in the West life is losing more meaning than in the East. Because science has made you more knowledgeable and because of the dust science has poured on you, the capacity to be surprised is becoming less and less. You are becoming almost insensitive to the unknowable. This is the only grave, the only death - that you think that you have known. Always remain...

... is not part of the mind, a ray of the unknown. And it will always happen through the absurd, because absurdity is the most suppressed thing in society. Society had been suppressing three things: sex, death and the absurd. And the absurd is the most suppressed. There are Freuds against the suppression of sex, and they have created a little atmosphere so that people can be freed of that. More than...

... sex, death is the taboo. Death still needs a Freud to fight against the suppression so that people can allow their feelings about death; can think and meditate upon it, and allow the fact that death exists so it is no longer a taboo. But even deeper than that is the absurd. My whole effort and fight is against the taboo against the absurd. I would like you to be absurd because that's how existence...

... understand it at the time. If we stopped the wheel of the cart, and that was the only wheel there was, then how could we reach the hospital? When he repeated again and again, "Stop the wheel, the CHAKRA," I asked my grandmother, "Has he gone mad?" She laughed. That was the thing I liked in that woman. Even though she knew, as I did, that death was so close... if even I knew, how could...

... call her Nani, Bhoora also used to call her Nani, just out of respect for me. He then said, "Nani, my master is sick and you are laughing so loudly; what's the matter? And why is Raja so silent?" Death, and my grandmother's laughter, both, made me utterly silent because I wanted to understand what was happening. Something was happening that I had never known before and I was not going to...

... perfectly okay for her to laugh. But what about the chakra, the wheel?" Now I know, but at that time I was absolutely unacquainted with such terminology. The wheel represents the whole Indian obsession with the wheel of life and death. For thousands of years, millions of people have been doing only one thing: trying to stop the wheel. He was not talking about the wheel of the bullock cart - that was...

... when I was a child it was even poorer. I could not understand at that moment why my Nana was so insistent. Perhaps the bullock cart - because there was no road - was making so much noise. Everything was rattling, and he was in agony, so naturally he wanted to stop the wheel. But my grandmother laughed. Now I know why she laughed. He was talking about the Indian obsession with life and death...

..., symbolically called the wheel of life and death - and in short, the wheel - which goes on and on. In the western world only Friedrich Nietzsche had the guts and the madness enough to propose the idea of eternal recurrence. He borrowed it from the eastern obsession. He was very impressed by two books. One was Manu's SMRATI. It is called THE COLLECTION OF MANU'S VERSES; it is the most important Hindu scripture...

...;Stop the wheel." If I could have stopped the wheel I would have stopped it, not only for him but for everybody else in the world. Not only would I have stopped it, I would have destroyed it forever so that nobody could ever turn it again. But it is not in my hands. But why this obsession? I became aware of many things at that moment of his death. I will talk about everything that I became aware...

.... Ordinarily, the so-called religious are life-negative. They are against life. Look at their faces, look at their eyes. They are condemning everything. This negative attitude has created a denial of life all over the earth. Religion has appeared to become an ally of death not a friend of life. It appears to be against life because it constantly goes on telling you, "Leave life. Transcend it. Move to...

..., and life begins to flow abundantly in you; it overflows in you. That is what bliss is: life over flowing. But you are more interested in death and less interested in life. More interested in destruction, in hate; more interested in wars than in love, in life. It makes you dead and dull. Before you are really dead, you are dead. When death really occurs to you, you are already dead. Whatsoever you...

... revere you will become. If you revere life, you will become life and more life. If you revere death, you will become death and more death. Remember this: REGARD THE CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND MOVING LIFE WHICH SURROUNDS YOU, FOR IT IS FORMED BY THE HEARTS OF MEN; AND AS YOU LEARN TO UNDERSTAND THEIR CONSTITUTION AND MEANING, YOU WILL BY DEGREES BE ABLE TO READ THE LARGER WORLD OF LIFE. LEARN TO LOOK...

... death: Perhaps I might die and be no more! He who is unprepared to die cannot go into God or enter into prayer. The other possibility with fear is to surrender. Accept the existence of death; do not turn your eyes away from it. The day you encounter death with open eyes, you will see death disappear into oblivion. You had never come face to face with death, and therefore it existed for you. All fears...

... reminded him, "Didn't I tell you God's grace is on me? I am saved from death." The test, the authenticity of faith, takes time for proof. Human beings were offered as sacrifice, but this too was a misunderstanding. The sages preached that only he who is total within himself can gain entrance to the Lord's assembly. The lack of a finger does not make you incomplete; even if the head is cut off...

.... When you do not fall asleep you hum your knowledge, and so fall asleep. When someone dies, you use it to absorb the shock, because you are afraid of death. It could also have been possible for a death in your family to become a full-fledged experience for you, by which you attained knowledge. In that case, the event of death becomes the hammer and you are the anvil; and when the hammer fell on you...

... the whole world is at your beck and call; you are the ruler, and if you die the world will die with you. How can the world go on without you? Wars are started or stopped by your smoking habits! Look around and you'll discover many similar stories about yourself. Nanak says that knowledge is the hammer. Don't use your intellect as a sack or else the sack will grow and grow, while you get smaller and...

... smaller, until one day you'll get lost in your own sack. You will die beneath its weight; that's how pundits and scholars die, crushed under their own knowledge. Make your intellect into an anvil and its shine will improve with every experience of life. Each blow will cleanse and polish it. If you ask a goldsmith or blacksmith they will tell you that hammers often break as they strike, but the anvil...

... of life flee in this manner if you face them in full awareness. Nanak says that fear is the bellows. Don't be afraid of it, because the more you flee from danger the more you fear it; your life's austerity and fire will dwindle to that extent. Wherever there is fear, accept the challenge and enter into it. This is how a warrior is born. He enters wherever there is danger. Where death stands lurking...

... for you to teach me your art, because who knows when death may come?' The thief replied, "If you wish to learn I shall teach you. Come with me tomorrow night." The next night both father and son set out. The father broke through the wall as the son stood watching. His absorption in breaking in would have put any artist to shame. He was lost in his work as if he were lost in prayer. The son...

... need to be. That is a very dictatorial idea, a fascist idea. Those who believe in God are all fascist, because God has all the powers. It is not democratic, you have never chosen it. And his power is absolute, over your life, over your death. Without God, a great Himalayan burden will be relieved from your chest. You will feel wings arising in you; for the first time, the joy of creating your own...

... then die. You will be surprised to know a few things. Have you seen animals making love? Then you must have noted that they don't seem happy while they are making love. They don't seem to be euphoric. They seem to be in a despair, sad, as if out of some necessity, a biological force, they have to make love. That is the reason that when their season of love is passed they don't even look at the female...

... in your death, remain satisfied in your misery, suffering, anguish. There should be no trouble, no reward, no effort to make things better, so they can go on exploiting you without any hindrance, without even feeling guilt that they are exploiting you. There are all kinds of parasites: the priests are there, the politicians are there. Their whole interest is that you remain in a state of coma, you...

... very significant reason, why it is so: the moment anything becomes perfect, it dies. Perfection is death. The vice versa is not true. I am not saying that death is perfection; otherwise everybody who dies will become perfect. Death is not perfection, but perfection is certainly death, because once you bring anything to perfection, then growth stops. Then there is nothing more, nowhere to go, nothing...

.... Just remember one thing: go on and on, never stop. There is no full stop, because every full stop is a death." We may be able to create something better than all the utopians of the world have dreamt about, but the utopia will always exist on the horizon, which looks so close that you could reach - just now, within an hour - where the earth is touching the sky. But as you go closer to the...

.... And I am going to expose you to the public, that you were not busy." He said, "Wait, wait. I am going to phone." And he phoned, and it turned out to be nobody other than his old uncle who had come from the village, because he was very old and he wanted to see him - perhaps he would die soon, and he may not be able to see him again. Lalbahadur Shastri apologized to me. I said, "...

...;Not to me. Ask your uncle for an apology." The poor old man did not know how to phone so he told somebody else to phone - he had never used a phone. He was carrying a few clothes with him and that was all that he had brought. And he said, "I have just come to see you. I will not waste your time. You are a busy man, but before I die I wanted to see..." You just have to teach your...

... politicians - spread the understanding that they have to be more human. I am not against politicians; I am against the political profession destroying their humanity. It is possible to separate both, then they can do better, serve better. And if humanity remains beating in their hearts, we can hope that they will not serve death, they will serve life. Okay, Maneesha. Generated by PreciseInfo ™ ...